Lower Back Pain

Healed my knees and back and SAVED my dogs life. I made a quick video so all dog owners know about this !! https://youtu.be/yI3DP8eFDMw?si=LHq-_LgJtWCQGYlR

100% the best decision I have ever made is to inject 30 IU (10 each) BPC/TB, AND Tesamorelin, and Ipamorelin directly into my lower back. I have suffered chronic back pain since a bent over row injury in 1991. After one week, the pain was completely gone. I take maintenance dosages now (same as above) and my back pain is gone and has been for months. Both shoulders are next.

It healed my knees and helped my back injury. It also SAVED MY DOGS LIFE I made a video as I feel it’s so important everyone know this for dog ownership. https://youtu.be/yI3DP8eFDMw?si=LHq-_LgJtWCQGYlR

Seriously I need BPC157! Pain management being roughly 30% less pain medication. 59 years old. Both knees operated, lower back operation and right shoulder twice. Jfyi not fat being 6'0" 177# fairly active (slow pace) . If I don't use BPC157 in a few days the discomfort increases. Considering TD500 and GHK-CU for a break from BPC157. This is all information from a parallel universe that has nothing to do with me. Just the guy in that universe is great at communicating with me. 😅

Yes I’ve been on the Glow peptide for almost 30 days now… first cycle I’ve ever taken and it is amazing!!! I’ve had foot and back pain for the last 20 years of my life since I started Glow (which is the wolverine with copper added) I have had almost zero pain in less than 30 days!! I am about to start my off cycle and I can’t make to start my 2nd cycle!!!! Wish I would have known about this years ago since I started this peptide I have been telling everyone I know that it might be helpful for!! Thank you for the opportunity to share

I've been using non-transdermal phototherapy patches that activate your own stem cells by boosting GHK-Cu and AHK-Cu copper peptide production through photobiomodulation for over a year now and I've experienced pretty remarkable changes - I'm a 55 year old woman. My knees, toe joints and lower back don't hurt anymore (arthritis) and I've been able to regain muscle and bone strength that was diminishing fast after first menopausal symptoms started 7 years ago (since I can't use any hormonal treatments due to high cancer risk of my family line). I've also noticed major improvement in skin, muscle and joint elasticity and faster recovery time after work out. This winter I have been able to carefully restart adult ballet classes which I didn't think was possible anymore... Adult ballet was my main exercise routine for over 30 years from age 20 to 51 but was forced to quit 4 years ago due to arthritis and other foot and back issues. These patented patches are used daily on certain acupuncture points through which they act as signals for the body to trigger certain bioelectrical processes like boosting the production of specific peptides. There are organic nanocrystals inside the patches that reflect near-infrared light emitted by our own bodies back into body tissues and organs through meridians and each patch type has its own specific pattern of nanocrystals, i.e. each pattern signals certain type of reaction in the body on a cellular level. More info and studies about the patches: https://startx39.com and https://lifewave.com/2820815

I am living proof and I’m living proof that exosomes work and all because of Dr. Greir. I had 3 knee surgeries and three ortho said I had to have shoulder surgery, but I decided to try exosomes prp and peptides and here I am three years later, my knees are healed my shoulders halfway there and my L4 L5 is doing pretty dang good all things considered. It’s bone bone and that’s just from using BPC with TV 500.

I see there's different brands with better/worse purity. Im taking oral capsules, feeling better but raises blood pressure. Def eat with it. Im a 47 year old remodeling contractor. So shoulders tore, knees crackling, lower back pain, sciatica, tendonitis in my right hamstring. Headaches come when you take too much from BP going up.

taking oral 500 mcg and has def helped my back pain, also overall well being feeling, maybe helps with some anxiety issues and stomach stuff as well, kinda early for me, two weeks. But no headaches or side effects that i know of yet.

I’m on it now for 5 weeks helped my back pain and shoulder BPC-157and IGF-LR3 simple peptide Florida!! Very good product Thank you ALEX

First and for most...I have been in pain for years from falling off my Harley at 50. I need surgery in multiple places. Soooo....Day 1 back pain is near zero. Elbow pain torn group of muscles at the elbow. I need to work. Day1 no elbow pain...tender to touch come day 5 gone. Yes fucking do it 200 bucks insulin needle yes

Im 170lbs Judo competitor. Ive injured my back carrying guys across the room twice my weight through intense drilling. If it wasnt for bpc 157 i wouldnt be able to to the sport i love. My 2 cents. BTW USADA has it under performance enhancing drugs that will fail a drugtest.

I’ve had surgery, radio frequency denervation etc for a back injury and I use Butrans patches, baclofan. BPC 157 has given me better results than the above has after 12 years.

I took BPC-157 from LRA labs sub-q. I also tried it orally from InfiniWell. It did not seem to do much for me. However while I was taking my oral dose of the BPC-157 I started taking TB-500 Sub-q at night by Biotech Peptides and I felt a difference the very next day. My back was hurting so bad that I had to crawl to the kitchen and Stretch for an hour just to be able to stand up every morning. Also both my rotator cups were hurting as well as golfers elbow. Also the pain is gone in those areas as well . I would say I am 95% better. To be fair I have not tried BPC-157 from Biotech Peptides. So I can not say why the other brand do not work on me, this was just my personal experience. I am only naming names so that it can be compared and maybe help others. In my opinion The TB-500 has been a miracle.

🇺🇸 As a 100% service-connected disabled veteran of the United States Marine Corps, my personal medical journey demonstrates a fundamental truth about pharmaceutical approval in the US: The government is not in a hurry, and waiting for their approval is a guarantee of prolonged suffering. My own experience with the US medical system began in 2011 after a substantial service-related injury led to the fusion of nearly my entire spine—from the occiput (skull) down through T12—with titanium rods, a process that took 17 surgeries and concluded in 2017. Around 2015, as the opioid epidemic accelerated, the FDA and DEA began making it extraordinarily difficult for patients with legitimate pain to access relief. Consider the case of Buprenorphine: a synthetic opioid used for addiction treatment (often combined with Naloxone and sold as Suboxone). Despite having been safely and effectively used in Europe and Canada for years, the US only approved it for opioid addiction clinics, simultaneously imposing ridiculous hurdles on prescribers. Physicians needed a special DEA-X waiver, which was financially prohibitive and required patients to adhere to stringent, repetitive, and un-insured monthly visits and testing. Millions of justifiable pain patients were abruptly cut off from their necessary medication, with the only path to withdrawal relief being these intentionally inaccessible Suboxone clinics. Furthermore, countless patients, including myself, reported that Suboxone was effective for managing chronic pain. Yet, the US government refused to even consider testing it for pain management until January 1, 2023—years after its addiction use had become widespread and proven. Fortunately, I had a forward-thinking surgeon who recognized the severity of my pain and eventually prescribed Buprenorphine for pain relief. My experience with the medical establishment's bureaucratic inertia led me to a simple conclusion. If you are reading this and believe a specific peptide could help you, I urge you to use it and do not wait for FDA approval. I have personally stopped using Buprenorphine and switched to this and other peptides. As a result, I am not only free from a synthetic opioid, but my pain levels are significantly lower than they were previously. I will be blunt: If you have not learned by now that the United States Government is not prioritizing your suffering and you choose to wait for an FDA approval, you are being profoundly naïve. When it comes to accessing a promising therapy like peptides, take control of your own health. The government is not coming to save you.

Hi Claudia. I've used these peptides cycling on and off for chronic back pain. I also did stem cells, prp. I am not certain how well any of it worked. I did find someone who is doing exosomes. I had 3 injections. It has been life changing. I am finding it really is the skill of the injector and quality of the product. Not all bio-regenerative products are the same.

Other than fixing a decade long back injury. It switched off all the background chatter in my brain and generally removed depression for me via the nasal spray which was a huge relief. I switched to capsules and i feel like they are less effective. Plan to switch back to the 5mg spray.

Hi doctor Having si joint pain for 2 years now but now the pain has gone but my joint and lower back can’t be felt and my body has stopped putting weight in my right si joint should I use peptide or prp?

I ran it for 8 weeks to help with a sprained back. Managed to fix my digestive track, lift while sprained, and fixed a pain in my foot. Wild work

Been using it for about 3 weeks now, bpc/tb 5mg. No negative sides at all. Shoulder pain improved, back pain improved, elbow pain improved. Stomach feels better from some discomfort I had. Is it magic? I’m not sure yet. But, I’ve had only positives in my case. My boss did it and didn’t really have much to say from his experience, but he needs a shoulder replacement and was hoping this would help make him not. I think his damage he was trying to correct or get help with was too sever for what it can do.

It's def possible to be a non responder to any drug. For me I notice an immediate (within a day) recovery from my running routine while injecting BPC 157, seems to get rid of muscle soreness and DOMS which is great. Also used it in the past when I worked in traffic control.. I was a super unfit person and at the end of a 8 hour day waving a sign it fs your back up and legs. Well while injecting BPC that all disappeared and at the end of 8 hours I felt fine.

I use BPC157 for an arthritic back (l3-l4) and it works very well. It’s not a cure, but I’m back in the gym pushing weight again. I do not inject directly into the spine, rather the area that surrounds the spine. Before hand, I was told by several doctors (MDs) that it doesn’t work for arthritis. They were all wrong. I told my back doctor about it, after I started using, and he to me it was a placebo effect…😂.

My brother just told me about this last night. He is injecting it into his back due to some ongoing back pain he’s been having and he said it’s helped tremendously. I plan on asking my surgeon his thoughts at my f/u on the 8th. It’s hard being out and dependent on other people, it’s only been 6days for me. I’m losing my mind not being able to do much with my dominant arm

Pain was 10/10 for me for about 8 months and 6/10 got about 3 months and then 2/10 for another 4 months. I'm 0/10 now. I will be so mentally unwell if it ever comes back. THC tincture and an Rx for baclofen kept me from suicide. No joke. Edit to add that if I didn't have a spouse, I would never have worn a bra that whole time or put on a coat. I barely washed the left side of my hair in all that time.

CBD works miracles putting on skin immediately after burns from fire,heat and even sunburn. I believe CBD with THC works a little better. But i don't know about radiation burns. I wished it would have been around when my wife got radiation for her cancer. But that was before it became popular. We both use it now for back and leg pain. I helps immensely and works very fast.

People who haven’t experienced pain like this have no idea. They might see you up doing normal things and think you’re fine if you’re not visibly showing signs of pain, and I mean who wants to complain all the time anyway. Think of it as broken foot or arm in a cast most people will understand you are limited in what you can do. But neck/back pain isn’t the same with flare ups and doing too much one day and being bed bound the next day. They don’t get it sadly sometimes even our partners. My spouse was much like that after my injury and surgery. Later in life he was diagnosed with RA and now gets it….. Hang in there! You will learn your limits and find the best ways to manage pain:) If you are in the States maybe ask your doctor about temp disability also depending on what state you are in there might be programs to help train for a different career. You’re not alone there’s millions of us that understand what you’re going through virtual hug hope you have a minimal pain day. Don’t forget to be open to try new things, I’ve found surprising what I thought was unrelated ways to lower my pain levels like drastically lowering carbs 0-50 daily helps with inflammation especially for compressed nerves. Cheers!

I understand that neck, back, and shoulder pain caused by various factors, mine was caused by \~20 years of sedentary lifestyle, and I genuinely hope that my story could help/inspire anyone with the same condition as mine was. Please note that I'm not a medical professional. I’m a sedentary person working behind the computer for 8+ hours/day since the early 2000s, with 0 exercises since then (last worked out during school’s PE classes in the '90s…). My most "active" era was regular weekend road trips starting around 4 years before COVID, but I’d say that's still mostly sitting (driving). During my early 30s, I started getting occasional neck and lower back pain. Which came randomly: after/during sitting long hours, long drives, or when waking up in the morning. The pain usually went away after a few days, so I didn't think much of it and just consider this as part of "aging”. The frequency increased throughout my mid-30s onward. I even replaced my mattress with an "orthopedic" one, then a latex one, but neither helped. When Covid hit, I didn't leave the home for around 6 months (already worked remotely), so no road trips (no activity/more sedentary). One day, out of nowhere, my neck and shoulders became stiff. Turning my head in any direction (left, right, up, down) was extremely painful. The pain radiated from my shoulder -> neck -> all the way to the top of my head. This was different from the "regular" lower back pain I was still dealing with. After weeks/months, I finally saw a doctor. Then another. And another. I kept changing doctors, hoping for different diagnoses, but none could pinpoint the cause. They just prescribed anti-inflammatories and muscle relaxants, plus physical therapy (which I did). I also tried chiropractors and every stretching routine I could find online. Nothing fixed it. After almost 2 years of consistent meds, physical therapy, and stretches with zero results (I was 40 by then), I gave up on all of it. Out of nowhere 🤷🏻, I thought: "Maybe going to the gym could help?”. I researched gym trainings/programs and got intrigued by compound movements: just a few exercises that train the whole body. My goal wasn't bigger arms; I wanted full-body strength, hoping it might fix my pain. So I started training with compound lifts, started with an empty bar to avoid injury while learning proper form (no personal trainer, I learned from YT, social medias, blogs, etc). Lo and behold, after a few months of consistent 3x/week training, the pain and stiffness decreased significantly. Around the 1-year mark, the pain and stiffness were mostly gone. Now, after 3 years of lifting 3-4x/week, no more neck/shoulder/upper back pain/stiffness, no more lower back pain after waking up and sitting/driving for hours. And here's the thing: outside of gym sessions, I'm still mostly sedentary — still sitting behind the computer for hours! I'm amazed and grateful at how consistent strength training changed my health. I'm not only pain-free, but also the strongest I've ever been. I hope my story could be useful/help/inspire others with the same condition as mine was. Has anyone else with pain from a sedentary lifestyle tried weight training and had similar results?

I will say from my personal experience, when I was taking Norco, one tablet, maybe 3 days a week, my 4.5 mg LDN almost seemed to enhance the pain relief. But then I needed the pain meds more frequently and eventually went on Buprenorphine daily. I found the LDN just didn't help anymore but didn't make me feel worse and I ended up stopping the LDN. Now I'm on a different daily opioid due to debilitating side effects on the Buprenorphine and really wish I could still take the LDN with it, but I am afraid of withdrawals with being a daily opioid. I felt less stiff on LDN, less brain fog and it honestly lifted my mood so much and kept my overstimulation down. I've never missed being on a medication before but I really miss my LDN. It was the best antidepressant I've ever taken and it's not even an antidepressant! I do wonder if just the right ratio of very low dose naltrexone with a slightly higher dose opioid would increase the pain relief (it also made the Norco last me almost 8 hours instead of 4-6 hours,) and my pain doctor is willing to let me try if I want to, but this post kind of confirmed my fears about even trialing that.

I used cannabis nonstop since my accident, like 8yrs ago now. Did wonders for chronic pain and the anxiety association with it (esp since they basically don’t prescribe opioids anymore). But turns out I’ve got Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome, which makes you puke your guts out nonstop until you go to the hospital. Basically became a necessary evil and was still better than life without cannabis, so I kept going. But apparently it gets worse every episode and I went into full kidney failure, almost died. Was sent to a better-equipped hospital via helicopter so I guess they weren’t kidding. Was a super fun ride though. Anyways, I’ve been cannabis-free for about a year now. The first few months SUCK. Had crazy bad insomnia, pain got much worse, anxiety totally unmanageable. But it slowly gets better. It took about three months for me to level out, so unfortunately you may have a ways to go. Hang in there, it does get better. But if you don’t have CHS and are only quitting for a job, maybe consider working somewhere else if it really helps you. Things kinda level out eventually but there’s no real replacement, so you’ve def gotta weight the pros/cons.

It's like my ex just talking at me. Good luck with that. I left the USA due to their extreme take on opioids and cutting off disabled people in bedridden pain. I now get 115 vials of fentanyl per month (patches are not available here sadly) and because of this, my life is coming back. Mentally it is still a battle but each day is different. I have access to morphine 30mg tablets delivered within 12 hours to my door for 250 USD per 100 tablets. My fentanyl vials cost me 2.50 USD each. My pain is more under control than it has been in 10 years. I feel like I can have a little bit of a life. I can drive without being drenched in sweat in pain. I am cooking dinner multiple times a week again and even started studying again. These idiots that control our care think that the I know what's best for you approach works, it doesn't. It leads to suicides, broken homes, broken wives, and fathers because how can you hold life together when all you can think about is pain? If you have the disability check join me in South America. I've never met more caring people who believe in the quality of life and are not worried about government overreach that does nothing but harm the people who need it.

I am not a doctor. I am sharing this information because I have found something that significantly reduces my chronic pain and inflammation... With great effect, and is worth looking into. I started taking pure capsaicin about a week ago. It has had some positive effects, in reducing overall inflammation and pain. When I was 6 years old, I sustained an injury to my left saccro iliac joint due to a violent episode of child abuse. The initial pain was tremendous, and over time I have had a lot of chronic pain and inflammation in that entire region. It has been a long and painful process, healing, going to chiropractors, taking various over the counter and prescription meds. All of it helped, in various ways. But the problem always persists and I've been searching for a solution that could put me beyond keeping the pain at bay. Over time, I have read various different things, regarding inflammation, and effective ways to address it. One of the items I had noted, was that apparently capsaicin is one effective agent that could possibly have positive results. Having tried so many other things, I thought about trying this, and I ordered some pure capsaicin from ebay. I've been taking a very small amount, twice daily. The amount I am comfortable with taking, is about equivalent to two grains of salt. That's it. And it's definitely super hot but not unbearable or painful. It's been almost a week now, and I am compelled to share because the results are favorable. So far the inflammation and pain in the region that has been chronically affected has been significantly reduced. I have had several extremely "productive" stretches, whereas I have loosened up some pinched nerve. This sensation alone is absolutely amazing. For the first time in almost 40 years my body feels symmetrical. This whole time, I felt as though I was "crooked." Aside from the reduced pain and inflammation there are several other noteworthy positive effects that I feel, however pertaining to this reddit topic I will not digress into that stuff. Again. I'm talking about pure capsaicin. The compound in hot peppers, known for making them spicy hot.

It healed my knee injures and my chronic back pain is better. It also SAVED MY DOGS LIFE I made a quick video so all dog owners are away of how it can help their dogs https://youtu.be/yI3DP8eFDMw?si=LHq-_LgJtWCQGYlR

I threw out my low back on 1/16. No herniation thankfully, just tons of pain and inflammation. I’m actually about 80% back to normal but the last 20% is the annoying pain that just won’t go away. I’m going to do a BPC and TB stack and see how it does.

I’ve been using the BPC157:TB500 blend for my lumbar spine issues for last few months on & off. The discomfort has reduced by about 70%. It has also been helping with the shoulder niggles with the weight lifting. I only buy products with the COA from 3rd party testing labs. In my view this blend/peptides are rock solid!

I'm currently using BPC 157 and TB 500. I have epilepsy and have ruined my knees. I used to love hiking and biking but stopped a year ago (17 years since diagnoses.) On top of this, I screwed my back on a poor form deadlift 2 months ago. I started the cycle 1.5 weeks ago. Knee pain is gone. Shoulder pain from constant manual labor, gone. Back pain about 70% gone. (I still have soreness, but no longer wake up feeling like a pile of welded scrap metal.

The first effect my 93yo father repoeted was that he was once again having regular, daily bowel movements. He has been able to skip his pain pills multiple days, with a 4 day record in a very long time. I started him at 0.1 mg of each and increased daily by 0.1mg. until qe got to 0.8mg daily until we finished the first 10mg of each. He wanted to continue, so i ordered him more. He has been doing 1mg of each daily for about 7 days and reported that his overall pain level has decreased by 33%. He is one of these old stoic depression era man's men so for him to say it decreased at all is a tremendous thing. He is going to continue with another 10mg of each at the same daily dose. Bill, what are your doses?

I recently started seeing a new integrative doctor and wanted to share my new protocol in case it might be helpful for any of you. Throughout my journey with low back and hip pain, I've tried LITERALLY everything under the sun to help mitigate the level of pain I've been experiencing. I'm talking all the meds, different types of PT, exercise, all kinds of specialty practitioners like acupuncture and chiropractic modalities... you get the idea. A few weeks ago I started on the peptides, BPC-157 which is supposed to be helpful for inflammation (among other things) and MK-677, which is supposed to be helpful for wound healing. I do feel like I've noticed a difference so far as I'm seeing more days with less severe pain. Peptides are certainly not for everyone and definitely talk to your primary/pain doctor or an integrative doctor before trying, I just wanted to give my fellow sufferers another option in case it might work for you as well. I hope today is one of the good days for you all! Keep fighting.

This is an interesting point of view... I've always thought of self care as being a positive force, but I guess if you analyze it as you have, you will find some negativity on the opposite side of the coin. What you have written makes it sounds like you are posting all your decisions on a balance sheet, so debits have to equal credits. Maybe this is not the way your meant for it to sound, but is kind of what I got out of it. In, my daily life I need to take medication to get through the day. Now I can focus on the positive which is the medication is often times reducing the pain that I am in, but could also say that it slows me down mentally, which I don't like, but which is the better use of my time. Another point that I would make is that you might be better served by looking at your day as a whole and not breaking it down decision by decision. Sure, you may miss an outing with a friend from time to time, but how are you feeling overall. Yes, buying things to help you sleep are expensive, but you are sleeping better. Most people would take that trade everyday of the week. I do understand about not wanting to deal with or explain things to difficult people and I applaud that. I still lie and tell everyone that I'm okay, so you really are doing great. Showing yourself compassion or grace is wonderful and we all need this in our lives, but you say it's just a distraction from the real issue... the real issue being pain??? If pain is the issue then you should be looking for every distraction that you can give yourself. Pain sucks! I lived somewhere between a 7-9 for almost 20 years. I really do like the idea of your writing project and I will probably ask my therapist about doing something similar in the future. Good luck to you!

Hello everyone, Just felt like venting a little bit and getting some perspective from others. Back in December 2024 my Dr diagnosed me (31M), via MRI, with a suspected pinched nerve in my neck via disc buldge between c3/c4 after a chiropractic adjustment that I had in October. Pain was constant and excurciating for the first 2 months during the time I was waiting for my MRI and results. Pain, tingling, and spasms in my face, neck, and right arm. I became a hermit and spent my days crying and in constant worry about my future health and it really took a toll on my mental health. After diagnosis I was told to do PT and I did it, and still continue to do it religiously. I even switched PTs recently to get a different perspective. I'm 6+ months in and things have gotten better and I'm able to live a almost normal life, but there's not a day that goes by that I don't deal with some level of pain. Some days it's a 4 some days it's a 1. Much better than what it was back in October. Too add to this back in February 2025 when I was making a point to get myself back into the gym because the pain was becoming more tolerable I injured my lower back as well which resulted in tingling, numbness, and burning down both legs all the way to my feet. I saw my Dr after that as well and he prescribed me oral steroids. They helped a little bit and after 2 months the symptoms have improved, but like my neck the daily pain fluctuates. It's been 6+ months since I've experienced a truly pain free day and it's really taking a toll on me. Then compound not just one impacted area on the body, but two. I've been told by my Dr that next steps would be steroid injections, but I'm worried about having that done and that they only really provide a temporary solution to mask an underlying problem. What makes it hard is that I look totally normal and healthy on the outside, but on the inside I feel trapped. I'm in constant worry about never finding relief and constantly feel like im no longer the same person from before my injuries. I'm engaged to get married this September, and I fear I won't be the best husband and father that I could be. I've become way more introverted and doing things in public stress me out because I constantly worry that I'm going to have a bad flare up that will take me away from enjoying the moment. I hope and pray that I find permananet relief one day soon. I want to get back to being carefree and extremely active without worry of further injury or things getting even worse as I age. Looking for some hope as 6 & 2 months could still be relatively early, but from everything I read, if it was a mild nerve injury it should have healed by now :/ curious if anyone has experienced pain for and extended period of time and was able to achieve pain free status. Any recommendations? I want to finish this with saying I know I should be grateful that I can still work, walk, and engage in activities. I know there are a lot more people out there in a worse spot than me. This shit sucks and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

I just got the nasal spray of the wolverine stack. Lower back issues and tendonitis flare-up in my right arm. I'll let you know how it goes, Elbow tendonitis is the worst, waking up from it throbbing and aching throughout the day.

Where are you injecting ? I just bought a months supply and im excited to start my journey to recover my lowe back. Ive had chronic lowe back pain for the last 6 years . L5 S1

68 yo former athllete but still very active with cycling and hiking. I got an mri diagnosis of mild to severe stenosis. Cortisone injections not doing enough. Stretching and strengthening not much help. Thought I would try bpc 157 and tp500 in capsule form for a month to c if helps with inflammation . I wonder if a local compound pharmacy would b more trustworthy. Bought it from a company called Forester Nutrition with 3rd party testing. Anybody out there c improvements with lumbar stenosis?

Is there any benefit to taking BPC 157 and TB500 if you’re not dealing with a significant injury? I have some minor issues like back pain and knee discomfort, but I’m considering them for overall health and recovery. What are your thoughts?

This is fantastic. So happy for your wife. Fantastic, starting my dose of 157 for my lumbar issues this week. Ive been suffering with lumbar issues for 10 years following an l4l5 l5s1 microdiscectomy and lamineotomy. I totally agree, its so hard to stay consistent working out with spine issues. I havw constant flare ups and inflammation in my lumbar spine and I am hoping that after a few months of using this, Ill find some releif. Thank you for this video.

Hi Claudia. I've used these peptides cycling on and off for chronic back pain. I also did stem cells, prp. I am not certain how well any of it worked. I did find someone who is doing exosomes. I had 3 injections. It has been life changing. I am finding it really is the skill of the injector and quality of the product. Not all bio-regenerative products are the same.

Dude ! I love your Diurex video! 🤣I’m not sure why you turned the comments off. But you described me to a T. I am on testosterone injections and peptide injections right now. Specifically BPC 157. I have a back injury and stomach problems. Anyway, I have been bloated as fuck for months on end and I’m so sick of it. I was worried Diurex might be dangerous to take. Or cause of vicious cycle . But I am about over being bloated and looking like shit. I look 20 years older because my eyes are puffy all the time. My belly is always swollen. I only weigh 111 pounds for shit sake! anyway, I’m gonna go ahead and buy myself some of those. I’ve been taking potassium to try to counteract salt. I just can’t eat food without salt. That’s a crime, I know. But I like to eat food that tastes good . I only live once. anyway! Thanks for the funny video on that. I appreciate your sense of humor and you are absolutely right. Being bloated makes One feel awful!

Hey Doc, Gonna take mix of BPC157 and TB500, 3500mg a week each. Dealing with shoulder and lower back pain. I believe injecting in the lower back is a no-go, right? So injection in glute and shoulder? Should i inject it in the mornings for best results?

I have a nagging left rotator cuff injury that refuses to go away, I also have mid thoracic back pains. And although BCP157/TB500 has helped with other pains and aches, these two refuse to go away. How do I get my hands on PRPs? I’m in Florida.

I wanted to use it after 7 failed spinal fusions. So much pain but I honestly think with my luck id have increased pain

I have box 157 I have upper back pain for the last18 months tried everything so now I want to try this where should I inject my pain is in both sides off my spine where I have circled I have done. X ray all this and everything is normal done physio Cyro and still pain everyday

I've tried 2 different brands (peptide science and limitless) of injected BPC-157/TB-500 from 500/1000 to 1000/2000 MCG divided twice in a day for 3 months and also tried capsules and they did NOT help at all with back or neck pain. I call BS anyone who claim they recovered from herniated disc with peptides. It MIGHT help with inflammation temporarily for a rare exception of people but I personally have not met anyone or know of anyone whos also tried that that it's helped with herniation.

What you heard: “Match BPC-157 and TB500 doses (e.g. both 500 mcg)” • That’s a significant underdose of TB-500. The 2 mg figure is clinically standard across sports medicine and peptide recovery protocols. • The 500 mcg suggestion may stem from DIY forums or conservative users minimising cost or exposure, but it’s not optimal for injury resolution — especially soft tissue and fascia-heavy areas like the lower back.

I have done about a month of bpc pills and my Achilles are the best they’ve been in years. Going to complete 6 weeks then cycle off then try injections in another 6 weeks. My lower back has not responded as well as my achilles. Can you demonstrate where one would inject a peptide for each common injury?

Started this stack at 10 wks p op, total knee, due to continued pain. (under medical advice/monitoring). Mine had additional KPV. When I got almost immediate relief, I thought, well either it's working, or I was just at a point where my pain was gonna diminish. Week off on vacation, pain returned. 2 days into resuming, pain gone. My only issue is I had irritation /bruising on each injection site, so they sent a batch without the GHK-cu, (boo-hoo as I also wanted skin benefits) but that resolved the irritation. (My tummy looked like a war zone). F Forward, now at end of 10-12 wks of use and gonna cycle off. Here's the thing, Claudia mentioned several times the 'healing' benefits. I'm not fully convinced of that (although would LOVE to believe it, as I need my other knee done too). It might just be the angiogenesis effect of bathing that area in blood, and temporarily relieving pain? Hard to say and not enough science on it either. BUT it got me through a tough spot when rehab and daily life was causing lots of pain, so I'm grateful. (it DID not change my chronic back pain from a 50 year old thoracic fusion , but I didn't expect it to). I also am doing CJC 1295/Ipomorelin as I am trying to change my body comp and increase muscle. Can't say in about 6wks I've had big changes, nor has it really helped my difficult sleep patterns (it's purported to help sleep). When I run out, I do not plan on resuming that one. GREAT TOPIC Claudia!

I've had knee surgeries for meniscus tears and am supposed to get bilateral replacements whenever I'm ready. I've had a torn labrum and rotator cuff "repaired" along with a bicep tendon reattachment. I also suffer from chronic lower back pain due to disc loss. Pain is your friend right? I've been on 150mg of Voltaren for inflammation from all the injuries and surgeries for the last six years. I'm about to finish a month on BPC-157 & BT-500 ("Wolverine"), hoping to get some relief from them, after my hormone doctor suggested them. Thus far, I feel no different. I'm still waiting for that magic cure I'm supposed to have from them.

I have done it for six weeks at 500 mcg per day. It helped my shoulders too. Nothing for my low back which was why I did it though. Now, I started back up again since the shoulders could use it. but, I worry that a rhizotomy I had on the low back will not be as lasting as it will likely speed up the nerve regrowth there. Its'a rose with a thorn for me.

I’m so sorry this happened to you. I completely agree with you regarding the stigma with opioid medication and the worry it will be taken away from you. I received a spinal tap to check for meningitis when I was 12 weeks pregnant and experiencing migraines 10 years ago - I wasn’t informed of the risks, and straight after the procedure, I fell to the ground and screamed from the head pain I experienced. They left me in a bed for 10 days saying that I should get better and it’s hormonal - injecting me with morphine every 2 hours as I was screaming from the head pain. After the 10th day, I threatened to jump Out of the window if they didn’t do Something to Stop the pain. They finally admitted they could have caused a spinal leak, gave me a blood patch, and I was instantly better. They just didn’t want to Admit that they had caused the leak. I now live with debilitating back pain which has been diagnosed as ankylosing spondylitis. I still feel to this day that it’s from the rushed spinal tap in the ER that day. I take a combination of oxycodone each day which enables me to get out of bed and work and care for my children. I’m petrified that one day I’ll be unable to get my scripts and I’ll be left to face pain and not have any quality of life. I really feel for you, keep advocating for yourself and change health professionals if you’re getting gaslighted or dismissed.

I’m really sorry for what you went through. Your story resonates with me. I was completely healthy my whole life and then one day I was permanently and severely injured after being injected with heavy metal MRI contrast for a precautionary scan. The drug companies all lie about the risks of these drugs and have forever said you can’t be injured with normal kidney function but there are tens and likely hundreds of thousands of heathy people who have been permanently injured by it like me. I have dozens of horrifying nervous system and musculoskeletal symptoms but the worst is that it permanently stiffened my lumbar spine like concrete causing severe pain everyday. People should be in jail for failing to warn about the harms but to this day the risks are still not officially recognized so no one is warned ahead of time. It’s criminal. I started the r/GadoliniumToxicity page to help warn people of these devastating outcomes. All we can do is warn people because the doctors, regulators and drug companies won’t.

Sorry in advanced for this post, i’m crying while writing it so it’ll be all over the place. For a little bit of context, i was in a car accident 2 years ago and they had to rush me to the closest trauma center for a bowel resection. I lost 1,5m of intestines half of it being my colon. As you can imagine it has impacted my life tremendously. Losing almost half your colon especially during a traumatic event is so hard for your body. I haven’t been absorbing any liquid or bile properly ever since. I am in constant pain everyday. Anything i eat will upset my bowels and there’s no real medication that can help me. I’ve tried many and the side effects give me more pain. I also broke my back and my hand and my back has also been in pain everyday since my accident. I live in Québec and here we have a governmental institution (SAAQ) that will “protect” you in case of a road accident. So immediately after my hospitalization my family registered me on it as i would not be able to work for a while. Ever since that day i had to fight through every step of the process to be recognized and helped. To this day i can work a maximum of 6h at a time, 3 to 4 times a week and a often struggle to finish my shifts. It was not that much of a problem since the SAAQ was covering the difference of money that i was doing prior to my accident. Today the person in charge of my file called to announce me that i will no longer be supported by them and that they are closing my file. Their words were “Pain isn’t a real incapacity”. I am devastated and angry at the world right now as i already struggle to pay my rent and i don’t know that’ll ever be able to work full time again. Fuck ableism. Fuck people who drive recklessly.

I've been on buprenorphine for extended release and hydrocodone for instant release. My doctor recently took away my hydrocodone for break through pain and left me with buprenorphine alone for extended release. I'm still in incredible pain and now I'm super pissed. I wrote a letter to my DR which she refused to read during the appt. COULD YOU PLEASE REVIEW IT & PROVIDE FEEDBACK PLEASE!?!?! Be as critical as you need to be. "Dear Dr., I’ve been feeling incredibly anxious and abandoned after our last meeting and changing the plan to treat my pain, and I’m beginning to feel frustrated. I don’t want to feel this way because I know you are doing your best to help me. I think, perhaps, our last appointment didn’t go so well because of a few things I said combined with you having an inadequate client profile, so I wanted to help you get to know me better. I would like to start out by saying that education has always been important to me, which is probably why I went to cosmetology school before getting my BA and eventually two MAs, including a Masters Degree in psychology. I’ve always been interested in psychology because I come from a traumatic background (I now have PTSD) and wanted to figure out not only why I do the things I do, but also why others do what they do. I also have a long history in the realm of medicine and have a fair knowledge of medicines, brain functions and anatomy. I also want you to know that pain is something I’ve lived with for almost my whole life. I was 15 when I discovered I couldn’t sweep the floor without needing to take a break to sit down since my low back hurt so much. I was 17 when I had breast reduction surgery, but it didn’t do much to help with the low back pain. While preparing for that surgery, a 2004 x-ray showed lumbosacral transitional vertebra (LSTV). The findings showed “there is partial lumbarization of S1 with a false joint with some sclerosis noted between the transverse process of S1 and S2 on the right. Spina bifida occulta is noted at the S1 level” (Radiology Report). I’ve been told that my LSTV shouldn’t cause pain, but I’m pretty sure this is where my low back pain originates. “LSTV has been reported to alter the biomechanics of the lumbar spine and contribute to low back pain.” (3) Now, I suffer from high impact chronic intractable pain, which generally presents as concurrent nociceptive, neuropathic and nociplastic pain, meaning my daily experience with pain is always unique (see Table 1). However, the chronic pain I feel always worsens as the day progresses, which I understand is typical of osteoarthritis. The weather changes my pain as well, increasing pain levels when it rains or snows, or when the temperature changes drastically. Being too warm or too cold will trigger a multiple sclerosis flare of past pain symptoms. Occasionally I even have days where my joints subluxate, usually my knees, hips or fingers—what triggers it is still a mystery to me (I’m thinking its spondyloarthritis). I have a variety of other pain symptoms that pop up as well, which makes having medication on hand a preference of mine. I usually only visit the ER if my pain is not able to be treated with the medication I have at home or if the symptoms last for a long period of time, especially because I am on multiple immune suppressants and get sick very easily. I understand the instinct to protect your position as a medical professional (as you should), as well as the way prescribing pain medication has changed since the opioid crisis, but chronic pain patients are at a very low risk for opioid addiction. *“An estimated 3-12% of people treated with opioids for chronic pain will develop an addiction or abuse with negative consequences.” (1) *“A systematic review reports…that only 8% to 12% [of chronic pain patients] develop an opioid use disorder.” (2) I am often thankful that I don’t suffer from addictive behavior. Since being diagnosed with diabetes, I quit drinking soda and limit my coffee intake to one cup a day, essentially quitting caffeine. I have also quit drinking alcohol, which I used to use for pain relief, since pain medication is much preferred. At my neurologists suggestion, I take one day a week as a break from Adderall, and I think it would be easy to stop taking it all together, hut I would only he awake a few hours a day due to my narcolepsy and would never get anything done. The only vice I seem to have left is smoking cigarettes, which I truly believe is more of a behavioral addiction than a nicotine addiction. I am technically at higher risk of committing suicide than becoming addicted to pain medication. “8.8% of deaths by suicide can be attributed to chronic pain.” (5) “People with MS may be twice as likely to die by suicide as people in the larger population.” (6) "Pain management programs may reduce suicide risk in patients with chronic pain.” (4) However, I am suicide resilient. I am a QPR trained Suicide Gatekeeper, which the Surgeon General’s National Strategy for Suicide Prevention (2001) defines as “someone in a position to recognize a crisis and the warning signs that someone may be contemplating suicide.” (8) I believe my outlook for my future health is realistic. I have many activities that I regularly participate in to try to reduce my pain (see Table 2). I need to adhere to dosage limits for NSAIDs and Tylenol, as I will be using these medications daily for the rest of my life and don’t want to destroy my insides. The chronic health conditions I have are incurable, so I can only strive to effectively manage them. The many types of arthritis I’ve acquired are degenerative and will continue to get worse over time (I’d put money on rheumatoid arthritis in my future). Due to my diabetes, I will have to be cognizant of what I eat and make sure my blood sugars are in an appropriate range. I will never have a pain free day in my life again—but there are medications that were made specifically to reduce pain for chronic pain sufferers like me. I am not opioid naive. I have been prescribed opioids by doctors and dentists sporadically as early as my teenage years. This is my third pain contract (technically 4th if you count Allina separately). Both times my previous pain contracts ended, I quit opioids without difficulty despite physical dependence. One of those contracts was with my current General Practitioner Allison McVay-Steer, who I encourage you to reach out to if you want more information. All of the doctors before Allison were ageist, assuming I was too young to be in serious pain. Nobody thought I had an autoimmune disorder. Even after being diagnosed with MS, I continue to struggle to find appropriate treatment for more than one medical problem. I see dozens of doctors and a plethora of specialists, but all of them have left me undertreated. I don’t have big dreams anymore, but one dream I do have is to be able to go back to work part time. I have multiple degrees gathering dust on the walls and after 5 years of unemployment I’m bored and unfulfilled. Further, the amount of money I make on disability only increases if I increase my lifetime wage earnings and being poor really sucks. I truly do believe that you are a good doctor with knowledgeable experience, which is why I have done everything that you have asked me to. I just finished swim therapy in October and I loved it. I was told I became stronger and more coordinated after our time. If there’s a way to get insurance to continue to cover this, I would definitely continue to go. I love swimming! When you first suggested botox for my headaches, I was still in denial of my migraines but botox worked beautifully. I just had my consult with Fairview neurology last week, so hopefully I will be able to continue that treatment soon. My meralgia paresthetica was a numb, loss of feeling sensation for years until one day a burning pain started screaming through my skin, but you knew right away what kind of pain I was describing and prescribed gabapentin. The proof is in the pudding—you have definitely provided treatment options that have been successful in reducing my pain, but I am still in severe chronic pain. I have pain everyday at varying pain levels and for numerous reasons, which is why I need both extended release pain coverage and instant release medication for breakthrough pain. The damage to my body, as evidenced by my MRIs, and the long list of diagnoses I have are proof that I should be prescribed a class of drugs made for chronic and severe pain, not a class of drugs that is made for those with opioid use disorder, because I am in chronic severe pain and I do not and have not ever suffered from opioid use disorder or any other substance abuse disorder. My last two pain contracts were for oxycontin and oxycodone. Both of those medications worked well for me, as they provided appropriate coverage of my pain and don’t seem to cause any side effects. ”OXYCONTIN is…indicated for the management of severe and persistent pain that requires an extended treatment period with a daily opioid analgesic” (7) I would like to switch from Gabapentin to Lyrica, because lyrica is FDA approved to treat fibromyalgia. However, I would not like to take large doses of either lyrica or gabapentin, since both drugs show evidence that they halt the formation of new brain synapses and increase the risk of dementia. I would also like to try Tonmya for fibromyalgia pain, as this drug was also recently FDA approved for that. Spinal decompression therapy and swim therapy are incredibly helpful treatments as well, but I don’t have the money to pay for them out of pocket. I’m also willing to discuss other alternative therapies or surgical procedure that might be helpful. I’ve recently been looking into cervical facet radiofrequency, percutaneous disc nucleoplasty, intradiscal electrothermal therapy, and racz caudal neurolysis. I believe additional medical testing would be helpful. Imaging of spinal damage, including specifically my LSTV, L5 to S2, should be done using a SPECT/CT scans or a Ferguson radiograph x-ray. Perhaps blood tests would provide useful information as well if we look at cytokines, ferritin, HSCRP, and homocysteine. Lastly, I think I’m overdue for someone to poke my head with needles. Am I going to continue getting injections (such as trigger points) with you, or is that something that should be done at Fairview alongside my botox injections? I am willing to sign any forms you would like for a release of information from Fairview. I have also consulted with a member of the National Pain Council, and have a couple materials from this organization that I would like for you to read. I want to thank you for taking the time to read this letter. I hope my blunt and transparent tone wasn’t too off-putting I truly do believe that you are a great doctor and hope we can continue working together to alleviate my pain. Sincerely, Liz Table 1. Conditions I have that cause pain: *Multiple Sclerosis * Meralgia Paresthetica * Fibromyalgia *Psoriasis * LSTV at S1 * Herniated disc at L5 *Osteoarthritis *Spinal Stenosis/Foraminal Stenosis *Hemangiomas/meningiomas *Ventral osteophyte/Schmorl’s nodes *Spinal disc desiccation *Degeneration of vertebral endplates * Arthritis in my large joints due to psoriatic arthritis * Cervical arthritis *Facet joint arthritis Table 2. Things I do to reduce pain: *I always take celebrex & Tylenol with opioids *Weight loss *Baths with espsom salts *OTC pain patches (not lidocaine) *Diclofenac sodium topical gel 1% *Magnesium for spasms and spasticity *Cannabis/THC (I have medical) *Heating pad/heated blanket *Ice packs *Low-carb diet * Use of lions mane mushroom *Use of turmeric *Essential oils *Pickles/pickle juice *Homemade meals since diabetes diagnosis w/high fruit content, especially pineapple, which is anti-inflammatory * Braces/wraps/cane *Rubbing/massaging trigger points with fingers/accessories * Mindfulness/meditation/breathing exercises *Stretching/light yoga * Switching positions References (1): https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/opioid-use-disorder (2): https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/opioids-long-shadow/2020-08 (3): https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3314934/ (4): https://www.mentalhealth.va.gov/suicide_prevention/docs/FSTP-Chronic-Pain.pdf (5): https://behavioralhealthnews.org/chronic-pain-quality-of-life-and-suicidal-behavior/ (6): https://www.healthline.com/health/multiple-sclerosis/suicide-rate-multiple-sclerosis (7) https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/fda/fdaDrugXsl.cfm?setid=bfdfe235-d717-4855-a3c8-a13d26dadede&type=display#section-17 (8): https://qprinstitute.com/about-qpr"

Dear Reader, I am writing to you—healthcare professionals, family, friends, and anyone who crosses my path—with a plea from the depths of my heart. On the outside, I may appear to be just another person navigating life’s daily routines. But beneath that facade is a reality that defines my every moment: I live with relentless chronic pain, a constant reminder of my body’s battles. I’m asking you to listen, to see me, and to understand that my struggle is not only real but profoundly life-altering. My journey with pain began years ago, marked by three back surgeries that have left rods extending from my pelvis to L4, anchoring my spine but not my spirit. As a former volunteer firefighter, I once ran toward danger to serve my community, but now I struggle just to stand up. Severe muscle spasms grip my body, dictating my days and nights, turning simple tasks into monumental challenges. I face the possibility of a fourth surgery, a prospect that weighs heavily on my mind and body. This pain is not a fleeting discomfort—it’s a physical force that shapes every decision, every movement, every breath. What compounds this struggle are the accusations and judgments that follow me like a shadow. I’ve been called a drug seeker, a dealer, or an abuser because I rely on medication to function. These labels are not just painful—they are devastating. They erode my dignity, strain my relationships, and make me feel as though I must prove my suffering to be believed. Imagine carrying the weight of chronic pain, the legacy of multiple surgeries, and the fear of another, only to be met with suspicion instead of support. These accusations can ruin lives, isolating us from those we need most and casting doubt on our character. I am not chemically dependent in the way addiction is misunderstood. My reliance on medication is a physical necessity, a lifeline that quiets the muscle spasms and pain enough for me to exist. It’s not about seeking escape—it’s about surviving, about finding a way to stand, to move, to live despite a body that fights against me. This is no different from someone needing insulin for diabetes or oxygen for lung disease. My condition is physical, rooted in the scars of surgeries and the hardware in my spine, and I beg you to see it as such. To healthcare professionals, I plead for your empathy and expertise. You have the power to validate or dismiss my pain, and your understanding can change my life. Please look beyond assumptions and recognize the reality of my condition—a body altered by surgeries and plagued by spasms. To my family and friends, I ask for your patience and belief. Your support, even in small gestures, is a beacon in my darkest moments. To everyone, I urge you to challenge the stigma surrounding chronic pain and medication. See me not as a stereotype, but as a person fighting to reclaim a life once dedicated to helping others. I am not asking for pity, but for compassion. I am not seeking special treatment, but the chance to be heard and believed. My pain is real—born of three surgeries, rods from pelvis to L4, and muscle spasms that control my days. My struggle is real, and my need for understanding is real. Please, open your heart to those of us living with chronic pain. We are not defined by our medications or our limitations, but by our resilience and hope. With sincerity and determination, Inoki (Pen Name)

I’ve had ongoing nerve related issues due to a lower back injury. The injury occurred when I was a backpacker and not an Australian resident or citizen. I have since become both (been here and working over 10 year) and have tried multiple times to take out income protection insurance and TPD. Every time I have been denied both due to my injury occurring before I applied for the insurance. I have been able to work largely unhindered for 8 of the 10 years, it has only been the past 2 that it’s become increasingly difficult. I am now at a point where the pain and fatigue from the pain has become so great that I’ve dropped some hours weekly at work and am really struggling to even show up, deliver and be present for my young family. I am in hell most nights and weekends are spent lying down recovering whilst trying to support my wife where I possibly can but deep down I’m exhausted, shattered, in agony and at breaking point. I just don’t feel like I can go on, go on being present at home and showing up for work. I am finding it all so hard. To make matters worse, our families are both in Europe so no local help at all. I am really at a point where I don’t feel I can go on working and able to be of any real help at home. I feel I have become a burden for my wife and for my kids, I feel I hold them back although my wife denies this but I can’t go and sit out for date nights, I can’t drive the kids places, we can’t go away together and I struggle just taking them to school. I am at a point where I feel going on working just isn’t possible, I am so tired and in so much pain and have given all of myself - there is just a shell of me left. What options do I have for financial support to help my family and me should I have to leave my place of work due to pain/fatigue/inability to show up. My mental health has always been strong but recently it’s taken a dive, I’m on so many strong medications for the pain and I’m breaking from the stress. I’ve had tonsillitis 4 times in 3 months and am getting sick constantly. My body has taken a beating and my situation is making it worse. I am so worried that not being able to work will mean my family end up homeless. Is there anyone I can talk to for help/support financially for us? I am at breaking point.

I think I’ve overworked my body while smoking and I had to stop to get a new job.. it’s been about 20 days and I’ve been really struggling to motivate myself to do a whole lot without the help of thc. It buffered out so much pain that I was dealing with and really protected me from flair ups/heavy labor. My back has been screaming at me constantly and I’ve had a lot of headaches I didn’t usually have while I was high. I’m just upset because ive gotten a lot of shit for smoking and feel like people don’t fully understand how much it helps me, I have a hard time being positive about the whole thing and its difficult to hide. I know I need to be more gentle on myself in general but I’m struggling and it’s hurting people around me when I’m in such a bad mood. I’m feeling a little devastated, weed feels like one of my best friends and has always been there for me.. I just don’t know why it has to be so complicated. I guess I need to vent a bit.. does anyone else have a similar relationship with this plant ?

I’m not having as serious of pain you must be in but I cannot get over the tough love part. My drs have told me to take it easy because of arthritis in my back. So I’m able to do some things on my own and some things my fiancé does. He is leaving you so you’re struggling this just makes him a jerk. I hope you get some place better soon.

Back around Sept 29 I had a real bad accident with my pain medicines. I left them on the counter with the lids off, cuz i got distracted, a few mins later, my mom started spraying the window with pesticide. I couldn't get to my doctor cuz he was on vacation so i went to the hospital where they gave me codene to last the weekend until I could find my doctor. When I got back to the doctor @ The Spine and Pain Center, he was pretty pissed at what happened, but we got it all straightened out. just over 2WEEKS later I get a call saying I was being dismissed, because my urinalysis came back dirty with HYDROCODONE!!!! I tried to tell them that wasn't possible, because I don't, and haven't been taking HYDROCODONE, i haven't taken long since before it was made a class II drug-back in 2012 or so when i first started seeing the doctor. I was livid, devestated, and hit a deep deep depression. meanwhile I have to ration my remaining medicine, because I don't know when the next relief will come, and my pain is getting out of control. I kept thinking that !@#$ing liar, why would he say it, what is his problem. is he trying to get rid of me?? why in the world would someone lie about that?? I started researching, and trying to figure out all the possibilities. because there's only like 3 basic scenarios which can be playing out here. Either I'm lying, and got my hands on illegal drugs(There are no records of me receiving hydrocodone from any outlet, not even the DEA). He is lying, because he hates me and wants to see me suffer for some reason, or made some kind of mistake nobody knows about, and is trying to save his own ass. -Or the urinalysis failed. I know the first one is impossible. I don't lie, I hate it, and I have my reasons. I'll tell my bestfriend she's fat if i have to. My ex-wife is a sociopath, and ever since then I swore I would never be that kind of person. She ruined my life. -And there's a deep underlying moral obligation that is outside the scope of this post. The second one is quite possible, but I don't see how or why that would happen. I know a lot of doctors, and professionals are sociopaths, and lie a lot, but I can't find a reason why he would do that to me. I have been with him for 5YEARS with a perfect record. I don't drink, I don't smoke weed, I don't do drugs, I've never missed an appointment until this year, and when I did I called and let them know I couldn't make it, and rescheduled for the following week. When I went to the hospital I did everything legit for everyone's safety. I called my insurance/medicaid first, and told them what happened, and told them I would be going to my doctor to have it cleared up, and show him the contaminated medicine and pesticide. They said get to your doctor, or the E.R., I called the doctor, no answer, So I went to my personal care physician / Clinic, and showed them what happened, and they said get your butt to the E.R., so i went to the E.R., and everything worked out. My doctor has no emergency protocol, but every action I took came from the advice of higher authority. Even Adult Protective Services said I need to get to the E.R. So I can't see how anything in there went wrong, that nobody else could see but him, and give him a reason to lie about me. That means the only possibility is that the urinalysis failed somehow. I know they're 99.99% accurate, but that only counts of the test itself isn't broken, and I know one in a few 1000 don't work correctly, and I know out of the 1000+ labs in the U.S. only 75% up to par. I started researched "codeine false positive", and what I found blew my mind. Turns out it's very normal for people who take codeine to show up positive for hydrocodone. In fact it would unusual for a codeine user not to have it in their system at any level. codeine is metabolised and breaks down into metabolites. metabolites are what they use to detect drugs in the urine. codeine produces hydrocodone in the blood stream in levels as high as 11%!!!! that's a maximum of 3.3MG per 30MG standard codeine pill. and I was taking it a lot. I was told to take it every 4HOURS, so I did. By the time I had made it to my doctor I had consumed over 500MG's at a steady pace. coupled with many kinds of NSAIDS. So during the weekend up till the monday I found my doctor and took my urinalysis, I consumed just over 500MG's of codeine which could produce a maximum of 55MG's of hydrocodone in my blood stream just as a biproduct. There is no way my urinalysis would have come up not showing results for hydrocodone. It's a scientific fact, and i recommend all of research it. google things like "codeine false positive hydrocodone" or "codeine metabolites". I'm hoping my doctor isn't a liar, so I can see this is the only scientific explanation for what happened. I have written him a long letter with scientific proof of codeine metabolites, and how many clinics explicitly state, "Do not dismiss patients on codeine for hydrocodone." Adult protective services printed and mailed him the letter for me last week around friday october 30, but I haven't heard from him yet. It's been a whole week, so he should have gotten my letter already, or he should be getting it this monday. Aside from that I don't know what to do. There are no doctors in my area who are accepting new patients, or medicaid. if they're accepting new patients no medicaid and vice versa. I don't know what to do. my pain is getting worse and worse, and my remaining medicine is dwindling as i try to ration the remaining supply. Soon I will be out of medicine, and out of hope. I am supposed to be in pain management for the rest of my life. I've been on these medicines for many years now, and there's way to fix my body. on february 15 2011 I fell off a cliff. I fell straight down 60FT, and destroyed my entire body. my heels snapped off, i broke my feet ankles, legs, my spine, my left hand was even shattered and came off internally. My entire body had to be rebuilt with metal, and many of the surgeries went wrong destroying massive groups of nerves giving me severe neuropathy, and full body inflamation. The accident was so bad I shouldn't have survived, but I did, and that means a lifetime of pain for me. I can't make it without pain management. The only reason I learned how to walk again after everyone said I wouldn't, was because I had pain medicine to help me push through it, and learn after a year in a wheel chair, and 6MONTHS in a body cast. Since this happened, I've been in bed for over a month. my heels are getting black spots from laying in bed, and soon I will need to be put back on warafan or i'm going to get bed sores. I've lost a lot of weight, because I can't get up to feed myself, and my hair even turned into a matt from being bed ridden. I had to condition it for over an hour to save it. I got a new caregiver this week, so I'm eating again, but my health is still declining steadily. My doctor needs to see his mistake, and fix it, or I won't be able to get the treatment I need to continue moving and living. I don't want to wither away in this bed. I pushed so hard to walk again on my broken feet. my bones will never fuse again, and it hurts every moment of everyday. If I can't get up I will be a prisoner of this bed, I will lose my ability to walk again when my legs begin to atrophy. I was told never to stop moving, or my legs would easily freeze again, and I will lose my ability to walk. There's so much on the line, and if he doesn't fix his mistake, I don't know how far I will make it. My pain is severe. I have to take morphine and oxycodone every single day with various OTC solutions to be able to do what I do. I don't even take the maximum allowed prescription. When I met my doctor he prescribed me 3METHADONE, and a maximum of 8 10MG percocet a day. I told him it was too much. I couldn't do more than 2METHADONE a day, cuz it made me feel bad, and I only wanted 3PERCOCET a day. one in the morning, noon, and at night, so i could get up and take care of myself. feed myself, and bath. So we've stuck to that regiment everday since. We replaced methadone with morphine, because the methadone was making me very sick. To the point I lost over 20LBS, and couldn't eat, because of how it made me feel. I don't know what to do. I need help, and if he doesn't fix his mistake I could even get flagged, and banned from all pain management for life. meaning I will be in agony every moment of everyday till the end.

Hi, one more guy struggling here. I don't really know how to start (also English isn't my native language but I'll try to get over it). I guess it all begun the day I was born, not kidding. I came here with a very big hole on my heart (ventricular septal defect) that should be treated through surgery on a life-death gamble, when I was just 7 months old. Turned out I won, but no one could anticipate the problems I will have in the very distant future once the heart-related stuff went off (which they didn't completely, but at least enough to let me live a normal life). Here comes the real suffer, where I'm still stuck: At the age of 12 (more or less), while growing quite fast physically, the doctor detected two new problems: I was developing scoliosi, with a significant pattern, since it was at the superior part of the back and oriented towards my heart (like if it wanted to surround it), and at the same time I was diagnosed with mild cardiac insufficiency, which I think wasn't that surprising since my heart always did that heart murmur that still does today. The first years, let's say up to my 16-17, I wasn't really haven't any problem. I was physically very active though, which helped a lot. After that I felt on a depression for many reasons that I think it would be pointless to go deep on them, but there's a few: self-esteem problems, alcoholic parent, living in a toxic little town and so on... Mix this with the fact that I'm diagnosed with giftedness since I was a kid, which means my mind is a storm of thoughs 24/7 that I'm not always strong enough to handle (another thing for another topic though). It was at this time when the consistent pain begun. It kinda come and go, and was focused sometimes on my lower back, sometimes on my upper back or even on my chest, like if it was surrounding the heart, which is exactly how I feel right now while writing it (well, in fact, even worse, since I'm struggling with my neck and other parts, but I'll go deep on this later). From this age til today, It has become way worse, beginning to rise to some serious levels of pain at the university (around 21-24 years old back then). To begin with, I can only sleep looking at the ceiling, not sided. My pain made it impossible most of the time, unless I'm so exhausted that I can sleep on any position. At the age of 27 I got a fantastic lucky strike. Just starting my holidays literally 30 minutes ago, a drunk guy did an illegal movement and crash with the car I was in, just when we where about to stop the car (luckily we where in a town, so it was a """"slow"""" crash). No one died, but I was so "lucky" that I got the worse part, since the vehicle crashed towards my window ( I was on the back seats) and although instinctively I tried to protect myself rising my left arm, it obviously wasnt enough to prevent a terrible pain and temporal suffocation since my rib cage was momentarily compressed. I went through a terrible month of pain and opiates. Literally laughing was something I couldn't handle. Now I'm 32 and things have gotten way worse. I have an specific point on my back and chest where the pain focuses and reaches its peak: it begins on the left scapula and goes through to my chest drawing an imaginary diagonal that feels like if you were stabbed on your back. Constantly. I usually cry, when depressive rollercoaster goes on. Recently I took an overdose of diazepam after an argument with someone important for me, just because I wanted to stop the situation of physical and psychological pain simultaneously. I didn't want to die, but I did not care either, to be honest. I just wanted the pain (in big terms, both physical and mental) to stop and literally did not even care if I die. Maybe its not easy to understand the process I went through at that moment, but I didn't thought something like "no one loves me and I'm absolute trash, I want to die". It was more like "this is an unspeakable pain, outside and inside, I just want it to stop right now, and I don't really care about the output as long as it stops". So I slept like a baby this night, but I think I should be scared (my family was and its my fault) because I found myself on a situation where I rationally decided that it was worthy to take the risk of an overdose to get out of the painful situation. I wasn't crying desperetely for help or something similar, I was just full of pain and frustration, even in form of fury, a feeling that has never been common on me (in fact, people tend to say that I'm very calm). Recently I've been fired illegally (that's another story, based on how much of a psychopaths bosses can be) and I have to go through the whole process of reporting the company, which increases my physical pain (and then, the psychological) even more. I can't remember the last time I haven't pain on my upper back and/or neck. I went to some physical therapies that helped me, and I want to go again, but turns out they are expensive and I'm just a poor worker in a poor country like Spain -don't let anyone fool you with the "being a member of European Union" thing-. During those therapies I understood the role of my surgery as a baby and the accident when it comes to back pain. I mean, knowing this did not help with the pain itself, but it made a lot of sense since my body is literally curving towards the heart like attempting to protect it from terrible situations it already went through. Nowadays, I can have pain on nearly every part (not simultaneously, though) of the left side of my body -in fact, my body is "higher" on the left side, than the right side, as consequence of all this-, til the point that I had to "retire" from football recently because my left knee is giving me constant pain, which is funny since I have 0 weight problems that could be related with that, I mean, my knee never had to support a lot of weight, I'm 1.8m tall and weighted 65-70 kg my entire adult life (and comparable values while being a kid). I have ¿fear? (I don't know if this is the word, since I'm not scared) that someday I may just had enough of all this struggle. In fact, I can't imagine 32 more years of this. Not even 10, to be honest. I'd like to keep going with my dreams (I have goals, like working hard to own a house, and a life with my girlfriend. I have hobbies since I like to code, playing football, playing chess, practice astronomy, being with my friends, being close to my beloved mother...) but I don't know for how long I could still rationally choose that all of them are worthy enough to keep myself tanking this pain. In fact, I'm crying right now while holding an imaginary backstab on my left side and another one on my neck. It's not a desperate cry of someone going through a very deep sorrow caused by a recent event of any nature. It's just desperation and being emotionally exhausted because I'm physically exhausted. Thanks if someone read til this point, specially with my messy English. And if not, I completely understand it, I just wanted to scream for a while and I've chosen this place, this time. ​ TL;DR : Chronic pain is a life sentence. Don't know how much time I may handle it.

Thanks for taking the time to read this. I'm determined to beat this...but losing hope. A little background first. Initial injury spring 2012. * L4/5, L5/S1 ruptured. Not a sudden incident, just increasing pain over a few months until I couldn’t stand it anymore. Got my first MRI and revealed the ruptures. * Doctors will not operate. Citing that I’m too young and in perfect health otherwise. It will get better on its own. It does…well, maybe. * I’m sent on a whirlwind of physical therapy, core strengthening, and injections which do little to nothing except empty my bank account. * Fast forward to fall 2014. The shooting pain down into my feet has subsided somewhat. But the pain in my lower back has increased. Doctors finally agree that surgery may help the situation. * I should note that the time period right BEFORE surgery was the BEST I’ve felt during this whole saga. Painful, but manageable. * Undergo microdisectomy L4/5, L5/S1 Fall 2014.Recovery is very painful, but I pull through. * I’ve followed all doctors/physical therapists orders for recovery to the T. Currently I’m exhausted. I’ve gone from a healthy energetic, fun 28 year old…to a depressed, tired, 32 year old guy. This injury has wrecked my life. I however, remain hopeful, despite the overwhelming evidence that back pain is really just a crapshoot. Here is some info to help start a conversation. I’d love to hear back from people in similar situations. * As stated above. 32y/o “healthy” athletic male. In shape, diet is squeaky clean. No booze, cigs. * Not taking any medication. Occasional ambien for sleep, maybe an aleve for pain (even though it does little to nothing) * I “workout” 5 of 7 days a week. NO lifting or running. Only stretching, and light cardio. * I am able to, although painful, work. I sit at a desk. with a reclined chair (big help!), and take frequent breaks to walk and lay down. *I currently use an inversion table, foam roller, and various other tools to loosen and relieve the tension in my back to no avail. Here’s my overall take on my situation: * This is muscular. My back muscles are seriously damaged. The lower back muscles are BRUTALLY tight. * There are HUGE knots I can feel on the deep back muscles. QL, PSOAS, erector spine. And they are literally ROCK hard and bout the size of walnuts. My feet occasionally are throbbing with pain. * Back pain is a crapshoot. I’ve spent an insane amount of money with “professionals” who tell me no more information than a quick forum search would have. I’m not buying it anymore. At best…its a “best guess”. Hence my post here. * The person who knows most about your body is YOU. You have to live with this, the doctors see 20 people a day...everyday. They may have the best intentions, but you're on a list of possibly hundreds. -Crucial takeaway: No matter the amount of massaging, rolling (softball feels best) will release the muscles. At best, after a super hot shower and stretching, I may have about 30 min relief…laying on the ground taking deep breaths. Then its back to pain.I’m trying very had to avoid serious painkillers as a last resort, but if thats what it comes to, to function, so be it. Questions -And this is why I asked about there being a “point of no return”? Its a truly vicious cycle. My discs have degenerated…my back muscles tighten to protect…putting more pressure on discs…causing pain…my back muscles have been strained for so long they’ve pretty much knotted and locked..causing pain. I mean once the disc degenerates, from what I know….that’s it, it’s gone. Is there something I’m missing? Other than solutions?! Ha -Has anyone visited the site PainScience.com? Its by far the best, most informative site on the web for back pain! I’ve learned about myofascial pain, relief techniques, etc. I’ve learned more from that site than I have spending thousands elsewhere. -Are there any recommendations on where/what to do at this point? Myofascial release ideas, muscular injections? I’d like to meet a physical therapist who has ACTUALLY had these issues…not just completed coursework. In closing: what are your guys’/gals’ situations? I’d love to hear from someone who has been in my situation. Any advice or success stories? Even a tiny success would be great to hear. I’m willing to do whatever it takes. Thanks